tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post3153676230664563568..comments2024-03-19T05:14:54.748-04:00Comments on Lisa Nielsen: The Innovative Educator: Learning to Read without SchoolLisa Nielsenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07759123507185453030noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-32904065395612209582013-01-10T06:27:14.465-05:002013-01-10T06:27:14.465-05:00Great article. I've never agreed with the scho...Great article. I've never agreed with the school establishment myself based on my own experience. So when I had children I decided to home school them. My two eldest are almost 2 years apart, but when I started teaching the eldest my second child just joined in. Now I teach them together in all subjects. Their age doesn't state what level they should be at.<br /><br />As for my third, by the time he was 5 I also had a 2 year old and a newborn so the schooling schedule was a bit mishap. He hadn't learnt to read by the time he was 6, at which point I decided to take a year out of teaching and just do activities, etc with them. When I came back to a schooling them he was 7 and could read fluently! Without any formal teaching. <br /><br />Most of what kids learn at schools is useless.It has no sigificance in their lives, which is probably why so many children rebel at school. Finding out what a child is interested in and teaching them through that is alot more useful to them.Liznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-71087679925519847842012-04-06T01:13:45.825-04:002012-04-06T01:13:45.825-04:00Im now 30 years old and I look back and wished I h...Im now 30 years old and I look back and wished I had dropped out of school at the earliest possible time. Unless your intending on becoming a Medical doctor or lawyer, I think schooling is not neccessary and will probably do more damage than good. I have a friend who went to University and studied economics for a number of years, and he could only land a job in a call centre after his studies, and he has now gone on to become a landscape gardener. I learnt to read and write mainly through reading book's I enjoyed outside of school, most of my time in school I was just wasting time. I despised most books and lessons in school, and my ability to read and write came from reading large Stephen King thriller books from age 11, and before getting to Stephen King books I was reading fun childrens cartoon books.<br /><br />By age 12 I could read any kind of book and understand it. However throughout High School from age 13, I just wasted time during school hours and barely got through, I just found school boring and stupid, and I looked forward to going home and reading the books I wanted to read.<br /><br />School is just a brainwashing centre to force the establishments idea's on the youth. When I have children I am either going to raise them to deliberately rebel in school against the teachers in an intelectual fashion, or I will home school them myself. If my kids go to school and get "F's" for refusing to just parrot a teachers ideas from one source, for the sake of standing up for the idea's they have discovered in another source, I will be a proud parent. If I have kid's who get "A's" for just parroting what a teacher believes, I believe I have failed as a parent to raise a child to think for himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-64676549270510364012011-01-10T11:35:27.970-05:002011-01-10T11:35:27.970-05:00@Peg, great story. I soooo agree with Sir Ken Rob...@Peg, great story. I soooo agree with Sir Ken Robinson when he asks, "Why do we group kids by date of manufacture???" It makes no sense. I love the Sudbury model of age mixing...and it just comes with the territory for unschoolers.Lisa Nielsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759123507185453030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-22397989066642293172011-01-10T11:27:55.605-05:002011-01-10T11:27:55.605-05:00I like this post. I started kindergarten at 4 and ...I like this post. I started kindergarten at 4 and still couldn't read by the end of first grade. I knew there was something I couldn't do and it bothered me, but my teacher was very patient (mid 1950's). I entered second grade and was reading fluently and at a 4th grade level by the end of the year! In today's schools I would have been poked and prodded intellectually and labeled a failure. In fact, I just wasn't developmentally ready. I now have a Ph.D., so I guess I turned out OK.Peghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11064620823835161797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-10342646417490377872011-01-09T23:49:17.271-05:002011-01-09T23:49:17.271-05:00I enjoyed school. I enjoyed learning in school (th...I enjoyed school. I enjoyed learning in school (though I did plenty of learning outside of school, too). I got plenty of praise for doing well in school. But the general feeling I have looking back at my pre-college schooling is that people spent so much time telling me that I could do anything I wanted to that they never got around to helping me figure out what I wanted to do! In college and grad-school, I figured out what I wanted to study, but then got not-enough support in figuring out how to do it. Having read Carol Dweck's <i>Mindset</i>, I think it was an example of the talent mindset run amok: if I was talented enough to make it, I must not need scaffolding...jsb16https://www.blogger.com/profile/15026570673498674977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-67813996441563059062011-01-09T18:25:14.823-05:002011-01-09T18:25:14.823-05:00@jcorippo - so funny you should ask that. I have b...@jcorippo - so funny you should ask that. I have been listening to his videos today at <br />http://www.edflix.org/gatto.htm as a part of my study into this whole thing. I will take a look to see if I can get an eBook of his work.<br /><br />I see unschooling, freeschooling, and passion based learning as models that go hand in hand.Lisa Nielsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759123507185453030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-28874916915167730042011-01-09T18:16:08.626-05:002011-01-09T18:16:08.626-05:00Lisa, have you read John Taylor Gatto's Dumbin...Lisa, have you read John Taylor Gatto's Dumbing Us Down? If you haven't, do it right away, he has very similar insights. I find a lot of teachers are "familiar" with DUD, but haven't actually READ IT, and yet have a negative opinion of the book. <br /><br />I cannot escape the ironic tragedy of teachers who assign books they (or someone else) like, but won't read out of their own "boxes". <br /><br />Keep it up, you are on to something. Loved the Passion based learning post too!jcorippohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16908189111182123788noreply@blogger.com