tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post498562504626992365..comments2024-03-28T05:35:07.354-04:00Comments on Lisa Nielsen: The Innovative Educator: Advice for teaching typingLisa Nielsenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07759123507185453030noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-59638706214895338782013-03-12T15:39:05.435-04:002013-03-12T15:39:05.435-04:00I started teaching keyboarding in 1994 and they we...I started teaching keyboarding in 1994 and they were saying the same thing then...."we won't have keyboards much longer". Well, they are still here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-76576899447689879932012-12-10T23:25:05.833-05:002012-12-10T23:25:05.833-05:00Keyboarding is the foundation of students engaging...Keyboarding is the foundation of students engaging with technology in proficient and purposeful ways.<br /><br />Physically, the keyboard is the primary and most direct connection between students and most forms of technology. More importantly, however, it is also their intellectual and creative connection to technology; it is how students' thoughts and ideas make it out of their minds and into the world.<br /><br />Considering the latter as the goal of #EdTech, keyboarding needs to be so ingrained that it is done instinctively and without effort. The importance of this comes down to a choice between a struggling student whose mental energies end at their fingertips as they try to figure out how to get a thought onto the page, or a student who is able to spend those mental energies fully on the creation and expression of thoughts and ideas.<br /><br />@finleyjd<br />http://keyboardingaskeystone.pen.io/Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17715855213718077138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-7061110839770968672012-06-22T12:58:16.467-04:002012-06-22T12:58:16.467-04:00Great article as I often have this typing-readines...Great article as I often have this typing-readiness discussion with parents. I find that Grade 2 (aged 7-8) is the best year to start more formal typing classes and practice. I look forward to using your article as an excellent resource for our learning community. You might like my recent post on applying "game-based learning" theory to keyboarding lessons. http:\\ict4kids.ca<br />Thanks!Anthonyhttp://ict4kids.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-75934991103245192212012-06-03T22:48:54.513-04:002012-06-03T22:48:54.513-04:00I actually tested the handwriting speed of my 3rd ...I actually tested the handwriting speed of my 3rd and 4th graders--much faster than 5wpm. They were up at 12-18wpm. This is was both copying and thinking, closer to the data collected by (Graham,Berninger, Weintraub,<br />& Schafer, 1998, which is 13-17wpm. Even that handwriting speed proves the point, though: Many students will easily exceed handwriting speed with their keyboarding speed by 6/7th grade.Jacquihttp://askatechteacher.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-54243069429809486772012-05-14T13:41:48.034-04:002012-05-14T13:41:48.034-04:00seriously! how long before keyboards are obsolete?...seriously! how long before keyboards are obsolete?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-85570372992467374812011-12-21T14:58:59.252-05:002011-12-21T14:58:59.252-05:00Touch typing can be difficult for the very young a...Touch typing can be difficult for the very young and for people with special needs. There is a keyboard that helps these populations - http://www.chestercreek.com/LessonBoard.html. And for older students the letters are removed, but the colored zones remain aiding in correct finger placement/use.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-89199513369703842192011-11-22T11:59:43.688-05:002011-11-22T11:59:43.688-05:00Great that you blogged about touch typing. It is o...Great that you blogged about touch typing. It is overlooked by most parents and schools, but important to learn. <br /><br />I also recommend having a look at this new <a href="http://www.typekids.com" rel="nofollow">touch typing course</a>Lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-49902745668935106282011-09-10T18:16:35.599-04:002011-09-10T18:16:35.599-04:00Great information. This is a topic I cover every y...Great information. This is a topic I cover every year at school--holding back parents who want their kindergartners to type with all fingers and calming down fifth grade parents who complain about their student's hunting-and-pecking.Jacquihttp://askatechteacher.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-36657345436131624042011-02-19T17:42:18.958-05:002011-02-19T17:42:18.958-05:00I have a great method for teaching keyboarding in ...I have a great method for teaching keyboarding in a very short time. Kids need to know their letters and alphabet - that's it. The method was developed by Diana King; and I have been using it with her permission. The method has worked for me with preschoolers through adults. I would be happy to share it with you...I have given many workshops on this to teachers and parents. Would be happy to come to NYC or almost anywhere else!<br /><br />http://www.strategy2design.com/ms/678kb5.html<br /><br />Gaby Richard-Harrington<br />gaby@strategy2design.comGabyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15049247526335422060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-66907179673132989272011-02-12T11:03:48.026-05:002011-02-12T11:03:48.026-05:00Kids will learn to type the way they learn to talk...Kids will learn to type the way they learn to talk if we get out of the way. My daughter types fast as she was motivated to IM. I am sure her technique would make a business teacher cringe, but it just means the people in the business department have reinvent themselves rather than requiring kids to take keyboarding.Douglas W. Green, EdDhttp://drdouggreen.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-73193497513591587872011-02-11T22:48:28.912-05:002011-02-11T22:48:28.912-05:00I'd love to see some form of typing practice s...I'd love to see some form of typing practice start in kindergarten. I agree 100% about doing less handwriting as the years pass on. There is no point in stressing such outdated skills. Teachers and parents set in their ways and thoughts about teaching handwriting and stressing it so much simply say well it improved dexterity, motor skills, etc. Well, so does typing. And have you seen the handwriting ability of doctors? They've received all the schooling in the world and they still can't write. The only issue I see with teaching typing is the variety and complexity of the devices we have now. Back in the mid 90's when I was teaching typing to elem students, all we had to worry about was a computer keyboard. Now, we have keyboards of all sizes (on netbooks, laptops, tablets, full size, etc.), mobile devices, on the Wii and other gaming systems, ipods, smart phones with and without qwerty keyboards, GPS units, and more. I think it is almost impossible to effectively teach this skill right now if students are going to interact with the variety of devices as the school years go on. I'm not saying don't do it, I just don't think we need to spend that much time on it. What if in 5 years there are less and less keyboard because voice recognition software is ubiquitous? It is already there with Google voice inputs on searches (on iPad but maybe elsewhere) and in other apps and products. If, in 5 years, our middle school students can just 'speak' their 2 page typing test, what will they do with their typing skills?Brianhttp://bwasson.posterous.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-40237872407604756262011-02-11T21:21:57.864-05:002011-02-11T21:21:57.864-05:00Students in my classes end the year with about 45 ...Students in my classes end the year with about 45 hours of keyboarding, (I start cutting the time spent keyboarding at the end of the first nine weeks and the last semester we only keyboard twice a week for 15 minutes).<br /><br />Imagine how much less time edtechsteve would spend typing if he used all ten fingers going 120-150 wpm.<br /><br />My only comment is that it should be covered in elementary.Carlhttp://weemooseus.edublogs.org/2010/01/18/keyboarding-a-response/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-35196608166515817322011-02-11T20:19:50.805-05:002011-02-11T20:19:50.805-05:00I would say that learning to type these days does ...I would say that learning to type these days does not really require a teacher, just a good program and lots of practice and some monitoring in the beginning. As a teacher, typing is something I would assign for homework and expect that they learn and practice the skill at home since I have just so many contact hours with my students for other subjects.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-91409789390259183542011-02-11T12:07:42.548-05:002011-02-11T12:07:42.548-05:00Consider the following:
- practice makes perfect. ...Consider the following:<br />- practice makes perfect. your students need daily access to computers to keep up their typing skills<br />- are your students entering data they have drafted in handwriting? For that, speed is very helpful. But then, their computer becomes a glorified typewriter.<br />- how long can you sustain a speed of 30+ words per minute while COMPOSING on a computer? (which is after all a better pedagogical use of a computer)<br />- what kind of "computer" do students use most often? Answer: a cell phone<br />- have you seen students texting with all fingers? Seems to me they use thumbs. <br />- have you ever tried to use a keyboard in a different country, say at an Internet cafe?<br /><br />Food for thought,<br />MMichellehttp://www.edu.gov.mb.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-15592762398576316682011-02-09T17:14:12.587-05:002011-02-09T17:14:12.587-05:00I'm using http://www.typingstudy.com to improv...I'm using http://www.typingstudy.com to improve touch typing skills. Best that it's online, without registration and free.Johnhttp://www.typingstudy.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-19232218935481114082011-02-08T23:55:32.676-05:002011-02-08T23:55:32.676-05:00I was very fortunate to have taken typing 10 (way ...I was very fortunate to have taken typing 10 (way back when) and it has served me well, especially since I spend so much time on a computer at work and at home. I have seen how much time it has saved me, how it makes editing easier and I find that I can capture more of my ideas when I touch type rather than when I write. My pen cannot keep up to my brain's thoughts but a keyboard can. For these reasons I think keyboarding is essential. Ultimately, I think typing for authentic reasons is the best but I think students can have lots of fun learning to type with interactive software.<br /><br />Along with learning the keystrokes I would add that it is important to emphasize good posture, choosing the right height of chair, taking breaks every 20 minutes (move and look away from the screen), etc. Many physiotherapists and occupational therapists say they are seeing more young people with repetitive-use injuries from texting and using computers.Cathyhttp://twitter.com/ccampbel14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-30434800871828660032011-02-08T21:29:24.015-05:002011-02-08T21:29:24.015-05:00I'm trying crash courses of typing with my 3rd...I'm trying crash courses of typing with my 3rd, 4th, and 5th graders. 30 minutes a day for 2 weeks straight. It's made a noticeable difference in the speed of those who have done it so far, with several 5th graders pushing 30 wpm.<br /><br />For free typing programs online, I'm using <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/typing/" rel="nofollow">DanceMat Typing</a> with the younger kids (grades 1 and 2), and <a href="http://www.typingweb.com" rel="nofollow">TypingWeb</a> with the older kids. DanceMat is more fun, TypingWeb more serious but more powerful. It keeps track of the progress of every kid and can generate reports of their progress. I have several other typing games on my <a href="http://pg.symbaloo.com" rel="nofollow">Symbaloo</a>Dan Callahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11502149671967824854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-24369972313146672922011-02-08T20:48:38.491-05:002011-02-08T20:48:38.491-05:00I think touch typing is an essential skill and it ...I think touch typing is an essential skill and it should be taught early and during the school day. I do not care for the silly cardboard keyboard covers that prevent students from seeing the keyboard while they practice. I type 80-90 wpm, and I want to be able to glance down at my keyboard. Students need to do that even more to get their fingers back where they belong. With the covers in place, they spend most of their time peeking under to find their spot.Sue Downinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14075178915389082083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-26183379212720597722011-02-08T18:00:54.738-05:002011-02-08T18:00:54.738-05:00Wanted to reiterate the emphasis in the CCSS-- it ...Wanted to reiterate the emphasis in the CCSS-- it is "required" that students have the stamina by the time they reach middle school to type at least 2 pages in a single sitting. By middle school, they need to apply these skills to more complex tasks.<br /><br />I want to throw out another model for "time." Instead of thinking about it as a semester commitment, I have several schools devoting 10 minutes a day. It can help students focus in the morning or after lunch and works especially well in a one to one environment. The students love it and some teachers have added 10 minutes a night for homework, as well. That tiny amount of time has great payoff by this time of year (if you start in Sept.). <br /><br />Another great free resource is Dance Mat. http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/typing/<br /><br />And, I'm with Lisa, haven't written by hand in 5 years except on my tablet.<br /><br />By the way, there have been some great studies on gifted students and how hand writing retards their thinking and holds back the writing process. (i.e. cognitive automaticity)shanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16981709755775257091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-86578289527679396062011-02-08T13:01:34.576-05:002011-02-08T13:01:34.576-05:00@edtechsteve Admittedly I know you were not and I ...@edtechsteve Admittedly I know you were not and I also agree that passion-driven typing is the way to go. I guess I’m also thinking this though. Even if students are able to do work that they love which requires typing, that does not teach them the skill of touch typing. Unless your given the opportunity to take a class with time to practice, this very useful skill is rarely developed. Why not give kids the option to learn that this life-long useful school while out school. The payoff is the ability to type at double, triple, or even quadruple their speed and they’ll be able to do so without looking at the keyboard. A very helpful skill in class, in work, in life.Lisa Nielsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759123507185453030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-26609560552712074702011-02-08T10:46:05.743-05:002011-02-08T10:46:05.743-05:00Definitely not talking about the alternative being...Definitely not talking about the alternative being test prep. In my ideal world, every student has a device to create with, connected to their passions. You create an environment like that and you don't need keyboarding lessons. <br /><br />Of course, I say this while tapping at 80 wpm with two fingers and a thumb. :)Steve Johnson @edtechstevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072809949861882048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-3048930702511811882011-02-08T09:43:48.663-05:002011-02-08T09:43:48.663-05:00@edtechsteve, kids spend most of their time taking...@edtechsteve, kids spend most of their time taking classes they never asked to take, memorizing facts they'll never remember, so they'll do well on tests that are really just made for the politicians to turn our children in nice charts and graphs. <br /><br />It is rare that people learn to touch type without time in the day to devote to it and it only takes one semester to get going. <br /><br />Why not give students time in the school day for one semester that they'll undoubtedly be able to benefit from for their entire lives. <br /><br />They get enough damn test prep. Let's give them a skill they can use outside of school too.Lisa Nielsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759123507185453030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-83200912264461378092011-02-08T09:16:50.392-05:002011-02-08T09:16:50.392-05:00I'm on the side of- give students something wo...I'm on the side of- give students something worth typing about and they'll pick it up.Steve Johnson @edtechstevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07072809949861882048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-61723549109140614412011-02-08T09:10:38.767-05:002011-02-08T09:10:38.767-05:00@Patrick, learning to type quickly saves enormous ...@Patrick, learning to type quickly saves enormous amounts of time and enables students to share thoughts and ideas more efficiently and effectively. I don't get the argument not to spend some time on this. It doesn't take all that much time either. One semester was all most people I know took to be able to type with automaticity. The paper keyboard is a great way for kids without computers to practice and you can tape them on desks for students to practice when they're done with work early. <br /><br />The TypeRacer contests are fun too and students can compete against each other.<br /><br />In the end I think what we should be valuing is the ability for students to share their ideas in the most efficient and effective way possible. We also should recognize the value of being able to maintain eye content when typing. <br /><br />I'd say it's an essential skill to develop that takes a very little amount of time to learn up front when compared to all the time saved and thinking captured down the road.Lisa Nielsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759123507185453030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-59001927854730857872011-02-08T08:46:28.606-05:002011-02-08T08:46:28.606-05:00Yes! Keyboarding is an essential skill, and the C...Yes! Keyboarding is an essential skill, and the Common Core Standards have identified it as Such. According to the CCSS, in 3rd grade typing is introduced. By the 5th grade, students are expected to type 2 pages in a sitting!<br /><br />We use Typing Adventure. We wanted an online service so that we could assign it for homework. We have limited access to computers in school as it is, and didn't want all 3rd grade time to be absorbed by typing practice. Our third grade teachers assign keyboarding practice for homework and monitor progress online. Once a month, teachers bring students to a lab setting to monitor progress physically and ensure that positive habits are being formed. We <br />built the site below to support teachers because some were more comfortable than others<br /><br />http://keyboarding.ccsd.edu/John Calverthttp://edtechcitizen.comnoreply@blogger.com