tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post6426096325008728249..comments2024-03-29T01:46:51.442-04:00Comments on Lisa Nielsen: The Innovative Educator: Petition Against Taking Standardized TestsLisa Nielsenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07759123507185453030noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-62506647959164548992011-05-05T06:31:19.082-04:002011-05-05T06:31:19.082-04:00i disagree because standardized testing is done no...i disagree because standardized testing is done not appropriate or useful manner... You should know that where they are...custom term paperhttp://www.essaysale.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-51617891320870637462011-05-04T17:57:52.244-04:002011-05-04T17:57:52.244-04:00@jose luis, standardized tests measure people'...@jose luis, standardized tests measure people's ability to succeed in rote memorization and regurgitation and also they help identify those who have good test taking skills. None of these are very helpful for individuals or a society.Lisa Nielsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759123507185453030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-14839236999102129762011-05-04T17:56:10.339-04:002011-05-04T17:56:10.339-04:00@David, I agree that people (adults or students) s...@David, I agree that people (adults or students) shouldn't learn solo. I think it is important for us all to form personal learning networks that go far beyond just the teacher or parents. I shared the concept of the Personal Success Plan in my blog post today which gets to the heart of this. <br /><br />I also want to point out that I agree that people may want to know their level of mastery in a particular area, but standardized tests provide an artificial, rather than authentic measure of mastery. <br /><br />Stay tuned for tomorrow's blog post which features how students can show authentic measures of mastery.Lisa Nielsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759123507185453030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-17342581197090764022011-05-03T16:58:08.705-04:002011-05-03T16:58:08.705-04:00What are those standardized tests really measuring...What are those standardized tests really measuring? If a student is far from being standard, who is to blame? Is education supposed to develop standardized students? What are those standardized results used for? Who is really interested in those standardized tests to be taken?...<br />Education is never EVER the answer.José Luishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17619153544390109371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-14314729922952808592011-05-03T14:28:22.342-04:002011-05-03T14:28:22.342-04:00Amen to the bubble sheets and #2 pencils going awa...Amen to the bubble sheets and #2 pencils going away.<br /><br />Personalized learning is about meeting the individual student where they are in obtaining the knowledge and skill necessary to succeed in life. There are many advisers that play a role in helping to determine what that personalized learning plan should be. It can't be just the student because in many cases they don't know what they don't know. This is where parents should engage along with teachers and the student to identify those things the student must learn (even at their own pace), but also those things that are of interest to that student. Along with historical information about how that student best learns will provide the environment that would allow a student to learn in a personalized environment.<br /><br />In the end however, if you have no way to assess whether a student has gained that skill or bit of knowledge you're flying blind. There are many fundamental skills that cross all students such as reading, writing, basic math. These can and should all be assessed in similar ways. There are other skills that society as a whole expects to be learned across the board. While there should certainly be variance for culture, socioeconomic and other known variables the bottom line remains if you can't measure it, how does one know?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08863122147302785860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-71170373853442427292011-05-03T12:17:17.794-04:002011-05-03T12:17:17.794-04:00There's also a difference between using standa...There's also a difference between using standards-based testing as a way to gauge general progress and as an absolute measure of success; it's unfortunate that we rely so much more on the latter form of assessment. Great, great viewpoint on the issue here:<br /><br />http://www.anurbanteacherseducation.com/2011/05/teach-for-america-corps-member.htmlemilyhttp://www.homeboystories.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-49793249586560048752011-05-03T10:04:29.867-04:002011-05-03T10:04:29.867-04:00@David, a standardized test is NOT personalized le...@David, a standardized test is NOT personalized learning. Telling everyone they need to learn the same thing at the same time, according to nothing other than date of manufacture, is NOT personalized learning. Telling everyone they have to learn about and study subjects they don't care about is NOT personalized learning. Denying students the freedom to learn their way, using their tools is NOT personalized learning.<br /><br />I would love to see personalized learning occurring in the schools. To do that, standardized tests are NOT necessary. What is necessary is empowering students to develop PERSONAL success plans that are PERSONAL to the measurable learning and goals they set out for themselves.<br /><br />Now that IS personalized learning and it won't involve bubblesheets and #2 pencils.Lisa Nielsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07759123507185453030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8318734518772387227.post-35076467285150027882011-05-03T09:56:00.572-04:002011-05-03T09:56:00.572-04:00Standards based testing is the only way to accurat...Standards based testing is the only way to accurately and efficiently gauge where a student is in relation to their personalized learning. I don't disagree that the way in which standardized testing is done (assuming all students should be at the same place at the same time) is not appropriate or useful. However not having a clear understanding of what a student knows and where they are in their own learning process is just as unforgivable as attempting to push students through the factory school model.<br /><br />Clearly "standards based" and "standardized" testing are not equivalent, but let's make sure those who don't clearly understand the differentiation recognize that we absolutely need testing, but it needs to be done in a completely different way.<br /><br />For personalized learning to work, it has to be at the individual student's pace, on standards that that one student is working toward proficiency on, when they have demonstrated through learning activities and formative assessment that they are ready for the standards based assessment.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08863122147302785860noreply@blogger.com